Tuesday, November 22, 2011

ADVOCATES OF PEDOPHILIA







INTERESTING POINTS OF VIEW:



21 NOV. 2011

MAESTRO

I firmly believe the pedophilia accusations against MJ don't originate from the Chandlers, so it's not so suprising if there was such gossiping going around earlier as well. They originate from suspected NAMBLA member and advocate of pedophilia, Victor Gutierrez. The whole thing was triggered by NAMBLA's desire to have a famous poster boy that would, in their mind, help to promote social acceptance. And so they sent Gutierrez 
on a mission in 1986. Also NAMBLA in its journals already made insinuations of MJ and his child friends relationship in the late 80s. They were basically projecting their own twisted way of thinking on MJ and those kids. 

The point is those insinuations were already there in certain circles - well, among pedophiles themselves who wanted MJ as a poster boy. And after 1986 VG talked to lots of employees of MJ, parents of kids. Actually Jermaine says in his book that VG contacted Wade Robson's mother and told her MJ was a pedophile. Joy Robson of course didn't believe it and informed someone from MJ's team about the accusation. From Jermaine's book it's unclear if that info ever got to Michael or if it did he perhaps didn't take it seriously. 

I can only imagine VG contacted a lot of people in MJ's environment spreading his lie and then he found his man in Evan Chandler and the rest is history. 


It's a fact that the Chandlers, the Francias, the Neverland 5 and many other ex-employees of Michael, who went to the media with pedophile stories or who testified for the prosecution in 2005, were in contact with Victor Gutierrez! He is the original source of these stories and the pedophilia accusations in my opinion. And he clearly had an agenda with them. 

These are worth reading: 

http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/10/12/victor-“the-toad”-gutierrez-british-gq-another-nail-in-their-coffin/

http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/10/07/victor-gutierrez-is-a-link-to-nambla-and-real-pedophiles-was-michaels-persecution-a-big-p-plan/

I find the info on Dr. Richard Gardner interesting as well. Sounds like yet another pedophile advocate. It's interesting that the Chandlers picked him. Does it have to do perhaps with their connection with VG?





Professor Robin Barnes 26 Jul 2009 




In pure visceral terms, John Lennon's hit song Imagine remains the greatest musical expression of global desire for world peace and unity that we have ever known. Michael Jackson’s 1988 video Man in the Mirror was on a similar trajectory toward inspiring a closer look at mass consciousness. If Jackson’s bold political commentary and visual depictions of the horrors of imperialist tendencies signaled a Lennonesque problem for those in power, it would have been dwarfed in scope by the public fervor ready to be unleashed over the nightmare unfolding in New England.

Indictments of Catholic Priests came fast and furious from 1992-1993. Within the year, twenty nine hundred miles away, in August of 1993, a confidential case report completed by the Los Angeles Department of Children and Family Services was leaked to Hard Copy television. Within hours a British tabloid sold copies to reporters for $750 each. Dramatic headlines offered lurid speculation around allegations of sexual molestation. By September 1994, police officials had interviewed more than 400 witnesses when prosecutors announced that no child molestation charges would be filed. Former employees who first testified that they never witnessed anything sexual were only too happy to recant and claim that they had witnessed something after their extortion attempts failed.

While Jackson had not yet become the threat that Lennon remained as a revolutionary activist, one would have to concede that stopping his momentum could have easily been an underling factor in the timing of the second set of charges. Indeed, only a “child molester poster-boy” as large as the Grand Canyon, could effectively divert public attention so that collective anger against the Catholic Church would not insure its ultimate and speedy demise.

ackson appears to have been a handy and convenient target for an establishment in desperate need for a scapegoat to spare the legions of Church leaders that “kept horrific tales of abuse out of the public eye through an elaborate culture of secrecy, deception, and intimidation.

By the end of 2002, it was clear that we were not dealing with one or two isolated incidents. Some 1,200 priests had been accused of abuse nationwide. “[R]epeat abusers, including priests who traded drugs for sex with minors, fathered children, and physically assaulted their victims:” were known predators that church officials shuffled from parish to another-- where they abused again.

In April 2004, Jackson was charged. According to Rolling Stone Magazine Jackson’s trial was nothing less than a zoo and a freak show. “The prosecution's case [boiled] down to this: In a panic over negative publicity, Jackson conspires to kidnap a boy and force him to deny acts of molestation that in fact never happened, and then he gets over his panic just long enough to actually molest the child at the very moment when the whole world is watching.”

You decide?



 MICHAEL JACKSON FBI FILES


http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/michael-jackson-attorney-fbi-files-vindication/story?id=9407615#.TsvzG7Jyz28








*Just a few words about Dr. Gardner, who concluded that Jordie Chandler's accusations were true.
  "Because Gardner 's PAS theory is based on his clinical observations--not scientific data--it must be understood in the context of his extreme views concerning women, pedophilia and child sexual abuse. 
  "There is a bit of pedophilia in every one of us." Gardner, R.A. (1991).Sex Abuse Hysteria: Salem Witch Trials Revisited . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (p. 118)  

"Pedophilia has been considered the norm by the vast majority of individuals in the history of the world." Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (p. 592-3)  



"It is because our society overreacts to it [pedophilia] that children suffer." Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (pp. 594-5)

"Pedophilia may enhance the survival of the human species by serving "procreative purposes." Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (pp. 24-5)

Pedophilia "is a widespread and accepted practice among literally billions of people." Gardner, R.A. (1986). Child Custody Litigation: A Guide for Parents and Mental Health Professionals . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics, (p. 93)

Gardner suggests that children want to have sex with adults and may seduce them. Some children experience " high sexual urges in early infancy. "

"There is good reason to believe that most, if not all, children have the capacity to reach orgasm at the time they are born."
Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics. (p. 15)

Children are naturally sexual and may initiate sexual encounters by "seducing" the adult .
Gardner, R.A. (1986). Child Custody Litigation: A Guide for Parents and Mental Health Professionals. Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics (p. 93).

If the sexual relationship is discovered, " the child is likely to fabricate so that the adult will be blamed for the initiation ."
Gardner, R.A. (1986). Child Custody Litigation: A Guide for Parents and Mental Health Professionals. Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics (p. 93).

Gardner on therapy with children who are sexually abused by their father:Keep the child connected to the abuser 



Special care should be taken not alienate the child from the molesting parent. The removal of a pedophilic parent from the home "should only be seriously considered after all attempts at treatment of the pedophilia and rapprochement with the family have proven futile."
Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics.(p. 537)


The child should be told that there is no such thing as a perfect parent. "The sexual exploitation has to be put on the negative list, but positives as well must be appreciated"
Gardner, R.A. (1992).  True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics.(p. 572)

• Tell the child that sexual abuse by a father is normal 

Older children may be helped to appreciate that sexual encounters between an adult and a child are not universally considered to be reprehensible acts.The child might be told about other societies in which such behavior was and is considered normal. The child might be helped to appreciate the wisdom of Shakespeare's Hamlet, who said, "Nothing's either good or bad, but thinking makes it so." Gardner, R.A. (1992). True and False Accusations of Child Sex Abuse . Cresskill, NJ: Creative Therapeutics.(p. 549) 

Please read the rest of the information about Robert Gardner HERE






PROMOTOR OF PEDOPHILIA


MICHAEL JACKSON HATERS




Written under the pen-name Carl Toms, Michael Jackson's Dangerous Liaisons was praised as a "damned good book" recently by Jackson blogger Desiree Hill, who made it clear she knew the author's real identity and BL [boy lover] background, shrewdly noting, "it takes one to know one"!"

We will not link the pedophilia site on which this quote appears but it is called "BoyChat" and a simple google of Desiree Hill and Carl Toms will take you right to it.

"If you haven't read Michael Jackson Was My Lover, you are missing out. I think they are actually selling copies of that gem on Amazon.com for a reasonable $150 price tag; I paid more, as I have two copies. That book,in a nutshell, was written by a pedophile (Gutierrez) for pedophiles. " ~ Desiree Hill, On Victor Guitierrez ($300 on pedophilia material, and she has never worked or held a job!!!! "I should mention, I have never worked, as I am quite young and never really had to. I tried to get jobs but was never hired because I didn't have previous experience."





SOURCE.http://desireespeakssoolisten.blogspot.com/p/las-vegas-nevada-state-law-governing.html

8 comments:

Al said...

aici apare numele lui Michael pt ca au avut grija niste amarati sa fie in centrul unui scandal de proportii
stau si ma gandesc, dc era adevarat cum de a fost gasit nevinovat?
si de ce un peodfil actioneza la intervale asa lungi, intre cele 2 procese au fost 10 ani de zile
Arvizo a vazut ca treaba a mers la Chandler si SIGUR a urmarit banii, dar cand a vazut ca MJ nu s-a mai lasat pacalit ca in 93, au mers la proces unde a CASTIGAT
si in 93 ar fi castigat
mda , nefericite cazurile cu preotii, cat despre acele citate cu pedofilia, no comm, sunt grotesti, unele

Unknown said...

interesant

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jlindsey/2009/07/17/nambla-gets-a-messiah/

Unknown said...

pun aici si documentele oficiaALE fbi , din care reiese ca au mai fost vreo ativa care l-au acuzat


daca ne luam dupa hateri, i-ar fi molestat pe toti baietii cu care a fost vazut, adica in jur de 15...bun dar chiar 15 parinti au fost de acord cu asta?? sa fim seriosi daca era pedofil, Doamne iarta-ma, la banii lui, nu cred ca se incurca cu parinti...si stia de unde sa ia copii..


mai sunt niste linkuri interesante



http://www.shadowgov.com/Jackson/jackson.html


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/michael-jacksons-fbi-files-reveal-extortion-terrorist-threats-20091222

http://www.amny.com/urbanite-1.812039/michael-jackson-child-molestation-probes-at-center-of-newly-released-fbi-files-1.1667676

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/fbi_bares_wild_BGkXv1H17Twf2eKT0N8RTN

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/22/fbi-involved-with-michael_n_400828.html

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24451966/Michael-Jackson-FBI-Files-6-of-7

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24451054/Michael-Jackson-FBI-Files-Part-1-of-7

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24451188/Michael-Jackson-FBI-Files-2-of-7

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24451313/Michael-Jackson-FBI-Files-4-of-7

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24451996/Michael-Jackson-FBI-Files-7-of-7


http://www.scribd.com/doc/24429718/Michael-Jackson-FBI-Documents-Regarding-Child-Molestation

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24451652/Michael-Jackson-FBI-Files-5-of-7


http://www.scribd.com/doc/24451220/Michael-Jackson-FBI-Files-3-of-7

Unknown said...

deci asta ar fi fost o proba valabila:)) pentru acuzatori, daca era cv pe ea;)9 ma interb de ce mike tinea casete sterse in casa....in 95

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24451313/Michael-Jackson-FBI-Files-4-of-7

Anonymous said...

Acest lucru este minunat! Aşa cum mulţi oameni care pot afla adevărul despre aceşti oameni cu atât mai bine!

Desiree este foarte nebun să fie descoperită. Nu cred că ea se va opri vreodată. Poate că se va găsi un nou obiectiv, dar ea este complet discreditat.

Unknown said...

Desiree will never stop, TGP---SO SAD FOR HER....


I see that haters put in front of us Michael's book writhed by pedophiles, I personally think it depends how sees some people the art books ... if MJ wanted to see pictures or videos , I think he would find them enough on the internet AND EVEN SAVED A LOT.
An interesting fact for Hater is the prosecutor did not find anything on Mike_s computers

Unknown said...

I think I was wrong

asa zice o fana din Romania

a stiut la fix unde sa deschida discutia, ptr ca acolo e full de hateri

astia au citit documentele si salut..nu s-au mai uitat si la mj

http://www.topix.com/forum/who/michael-jackson/T9UDC4ETJK27J4V6G

Al said...

cine nu vrea sa afle sa asculte cum trebuie, nu asculta, minciunile mereu vor castiga razboiul la ei

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